The Mac Studio M4 Max/M4 Ultra will be the best choice for an Apple 2025 desktop for majority of musicians and creators
Apple Mac Studio M4 Max $1999.00 ??? – M4 Ultra $3999.00 ??? minimum per processor type
If you’re a serious pro or amateur musician, you really want the Apple Mac Studio M2 Max & M2 Ultra or the Apple MacBook Pro M4 Pro & M4 Max. A large music and/or video recording studio without budget restraints or someone who must have PCIe slot expansion may want to consider the Apple Mac Pro M2 Ultra. These are the three best computers for creatives you can buy today.
If you absolutely must spend less than $1999.00, consider buying used, refurbished or consumer level Macs like the Macbook Air, iMac or Mac mini. To suggest buying less than an Apple M Series system is bad advice. Also see notes below in the Unified Memory section.
M4 Series Mac Studio could be announced by June 2025 or earlier
Seriously, by the time a new Mac Studio becomes available, it could be an M5 Series.
According to Mark Gurman, there will be “A Mac Studio with a high-end M4 chip, coming around the middle of 2025”. He has also said there will be a refresh between March 2025 and June 2025. I find it hard to imagine Apple would let the Mac Studio (and Mac Pro) stagnate until mid 2025 but here we are.
Apple of course, is notoriously tight-lipped. Time will tell.
Information will be posted as it becomes available
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In January 2023, I purchased a 14″ MacBook Pro M2 Pro with 12 core CPU, 19 core GPU, 16GB of memory and 1TB storage. At that time, I decided then that for my portability needs, it didn’t make sense to bump the memory or processor/GPU cores up. As a secondary system, I found the M2 Pro with 16GB to be very adequate for my needs, but as I expanded uses of the laptop, I yearned for more memory.
In January of 2024, one of my granddaughters needed a laptop for college and I was able to rationalize an upgrade. I gifted her the M2 Pro and upgraded to a 14″ MacBook Pro M3 Max with 14 core CPU, 30 core GPU, 36GB of memory and 1TB storage.
I regularly use most of the 64GB on my primary system, a desktop Mac Studio M1 Ultra. If this M3 Max were my primary system, it would have been tempting to go with 96GB. I never would have guessed it a few years ago, but I am really getting used to having large amounts of memory.
90% of my workstation needs are met by my primary system, but this MacBook Pro compliments it well. In Geekbench, the M3 Max 14 core CPU, 30 core GPU is faster in single and multi core CPU benchmarks and slower in GPU benchmarks than my M1 Ultra 20 core CPU, 48 core GPU. From my perception, both machines seem about the same which is totally wild to me.
The Mac Studio M2 Max/M2 Ultra is the best choice for an Apple 2023 desktop for majority of musicians and creators
Apple Mac Studio M2 Max $1999.00 – M2 Ultra $3999.00 minimum per processor type
If you’re a serious pro or amateur musician, you really want the Apple Mac Studio M2 Max & M2 Ultra or the Apple MacBook Pro M4 Pro & M4 Max. A large music and/or video recording studio without budget restraints or someone who must have PCIe slot expansion may want to consider the Apple Mac Pro M2 Ultra. These are the three best computers for creatives you can buy today.
If you absolutely must spend less than $1999.00, consider buying used, refurbished or consumer level Macs like the Macbook Air, iMac or Mac mini. To suggest buying less than an Apple M Series system is bad advice. Also see notes below in the Unified Memory section.
Mac Studio M2 Max/M2 Ultra was announced June 5, 2023
After months of bogus rumors, Apple did the smart thing and announced the 2nd generation Mac Studio with M2 Max and M2 Ultra at the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference on June 5, 2023.
Personally, I have no intention of upgrading my M1 Ultra until M4 or M5 Ultra, but if I didn’t have an M1 Ultra, I would jump at the M2 Max or M2 Ultra. It makes me very happy to see Apple is still upgrading this machine with both the Max and Ultra processors.
As predicted, there is no redesign of the M2 Series Mac Studio. The Mac Studio M2 Max and M2 Ultra has the same basics as the M1 Series. This is fine with me, I love the Mac Studio M1 Max & M1 Ultra a lot.
Also, like the M2 Series 14″ and 16″ MacBook Pros there are upgrades to HDMI 2.1, Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3. The prices remain the same as well. Fortunately, in many ways Apple chose to not fix what isn’t broken, amen.
If you want more details about the Mac Studio, read the Mac Studio M1 Max & M1 Ultra page. Beyond that, everything in the M2 Series is exactly the same as the M1 Series, except the M2 Max/Ultra processor, HDMI 2.1, Wi-Fi 6E, and Bluetooth 5.3 upgrades.
I would generally advise to not get too tied up in the minutiae of benchmarks, but they are useful for relative comparisons of processors. It is worth noting that no M Series processors are slouches. Some more than others, but all of them are a noticeable improvement over the Intel processors in previous generation Macs.
CPU single-core performance of the M2 Max and M2 Ultra processors in the Mac Studio is very similar to all other M2 Series processors, because of course they all share the same CPU single-core.
CPU multi-core and GPU multi-core performance is where the differences become more apparent because of the different number of cores.
I think it’s safe to say Apple now has a trend of using a single NAND chip for its 512GB SSDs. So smart money says stay away from 512GB SSDs. Otherwise you can expect Mac Studio M2 Max & M2 Ultra 1TB and larger SSDs to have the same stellar performance M1 Series have now.
DAW Performance Benchmarks
You can expect Mac Studio M2 Series DAW performance to be improved over the Mac Studio M1 Series. Keep in mind that Mac Studio M1 Series DAW performance was already way beyond what nearly every musician can even dream of using.
Check software compatibilities
The Mac Studio M2 Max & M2 Ultra has macOS Sonoma on it.
It should go without saying, but I’m gonna say it anyway. M Series has been out since November 2020. I think it’s crazy that any DAW or plugin should have issues or still be running on Rosetta emulation, but not everyone listens to me. Do your homework!
Furthermore, in my opinion any major software company that markets to Apple users and hasn’t updated their software to include Apple silicon compatibility deserves to lose your business. It’s been over 3 years, and at this point it’s a real screw you. They obviously don’t care about their customers and should be replaced by a company that cares more about their customers.
My personal experience with Ventura and Sonoma has been very good. Everything I use runs natively on M Series and is compatible with those. But don’t listen to me, do your homework!
The Mac Studio has what it takes to get through the next 5+ years of your music & video productions
This is why you buy Apple. Realistically with the cost of computers these days, a 1-3 year refresh cycle is not practical for most people. Unlike the majority if not all PC systems, Apple computers are built to last and Apple silicon is state of the art enough to start you at the head of the pack.
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In lieu of a 2nd Apple Studio Display (for a moment) I picked up a 14″ MacBook Pro M2 Pro with 12 CPU cores, 19 GPU cores, 16GB memory, and 1TB storage. I wanted macOS, application, and storage redundancy, as well as portability.
Most of my workstation needs are met by the desktop Mac Studio M1 Ultra, but the MacBook Pro will compliment it well.
This MacBook Pro generally has 50%-75% of the performance of the desktop and obviously is much easier to move. Not only will it expand my on the go computing, but it is the perfect portable DAW, should I ever need that.
The data itself is shared by iCloud Drive and Dropbox.
The Mac Studio M1 Max/Ultra is Apple’s most powerful 2022 desktop and the ultimate desktop for musicians & creators
Mar 9, 2022: Ordered Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra. Delivery changed a few times, last estimate June 29. Apr 19, 2022: Ordered Apple Studio Display that should deliver by June 3. Jun 3, 2022: Studio Display did arrive on time. Still, I couldn’t use it since the Mac Studio had not <sigh>. Jun 24, 2022: Mac Studio M1 Ultra shipped and could be here tomorrow which will be the 109th day. Jun 25, 2022: Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra: Delivered!
If you’re a serious pro or amateur musician, you really want the Apple Mac Studio M2 Max & M2 Ultra or the Apple MacBook Pro M4 Pro & M4 Max. A large music and/or video recording studio without budget restraints or someone who must have PCIe slot expansion may want to consider the Apple Mac Pro M2 Ultra. These are the three best computers for creatives you can buy today.
If you absolutely must spend less than $1999.00, consider buying used, refurbished or consumer level Macs like the Macbook Air, iMac or Mac mini. To suggest buying less than an Apple M Series system is bad advice. Also see notes below in the Unified Memory section.
July 2024 note: 2 years in, as expected my Mac Studio M1 Ultra is as beautiful machine as it was day one in 2022. Performance is such that I have no need whatsoever to upgrade. At this point I would think these Mac Studio M1 Series systems would make incredible bargains used or refurbished.
Announced March 8, 2022, the Mac Studio with M1 Max or M1 Ultra is clearly the most exciting Apple product to date
I think the M1 Max 32GB with 10 CPU cores, 24 GPU cores and a 1TB SSD is the value sweet spot for the Mac Studio at $1999.00 plus $200.00 for the highly recommended 1TB SSD upgrade. This is the same value sweet spot I recommend for the MacBook Pro 16″ model.
With experience, I can confidently say this configuration is more than enough for the mass majority of musicians and creatives. In real world usage, it is unlikely you will push this configuration near its CPU, GPU or memory limits for a long time to come. More than this system is overkill for most people including me.
Right off the bat, let me say that even though this configuration is the value sweet spot, value may not be your most prioritized need or even a need at all. You know what you need or just plain want. There is nothing wrong with overkill and extreme future proofing. Ignore specific product recommendations from everyone, including me.
Only you know what applications you run today and what you might run in the future. Only you know how much future proofing you want and what your budget ranges are. So many blog/social media/video influencers ridiculously presume to know what the best system for you is without knowing you. Don’t be influenced.
I bought a base model Mac Studio M1 Ultra
An M1 Ultra is basically two M1 Maxs connected together and presenting as one CPU. The $3999.00 Mac Studio M1 Ultra being twice the price of the $1999.00 Mac Studio M1 Max should surprise no one. It has double the CPU cores (10 to 20), double the GPU cores (24 to 48, there is a 64 cores model for +$1000.00, I’ll pass), double the Neural Engine cores (16 to 32), double the unified memory (32GB to 64GB), double the memory bandwidth (400GB/sec to 800GB/sec), double the media engine enhancements, double the SSD storage, and 6 Thunderbolt 4/USB-C ports instead of 4 Thunderbolt 4/USB-C + 2 USB-C ports.
I have all the standard browsing, word processing and spreadsheet needs. I build websites with graphics and image editing needs. Music production in Ableton and Logic Pro is very important to me. With this purchase I intend to begin learning video production in Final Cut Pro, like I feel many musicians will soon enough. I often multitask applications concurrently and keep a number of applications open constantly.
For me, the M1 Ultra fit
Make no mistake about it though, I wanted overkill. Doubling the CPU cores, GPU cores, unified memory, memory bandwidth and more Thunderbolt 4 ports were well worth doubling the price to me. It was top of my budget and I am certain it future proofs me well over 5 years.
It is an incredible computing experience to never run out of CPU, GPU or memory. It’s great to never hear the fans. In my opinion, this is how computing should be.
It would have been nice to have more internal storage than 1TB, but the processor and memory are not upgradable, so for me it is better to prioritize those first, and supplement the internal SSD with external SSDs as I need them. The internal 1TB is plenty enough for my highest performance working storage needs. I can archive whatever amount I need to externally.
It suffices to say the Mac Studio is cutting edge, and an amazing engineering achievement. Just be careful to project your own needs and ignore obvious biases or technical naivete out in the wild.
Unified Memory
One of the beautiful things about M series processors is the memory in the processor chip. The performance and efficiency results of this design are significant and unmistakable. Because of this design, you cannot upgrade the memory later. It is important to get a sufficient amount of memory.
Going backwards for a second, getting any M Series with 8GB memory is a mistake for DAW users. People with basic needs do it, but they are not maximizing their performance potential. They are not going to go 5 years comfortably. An M1/M2 or M1 Pro with 16GB memory is the minimum. For many DAW users 16GB is too low as well. The 32GB base memory of the M1 Max will prove quite sufficient for most electronic or rock musicians.
However, if your projects include a lot of sampled instruments, orchestral arrangements or soundtrack work, you really should consider a 64GB M1 Max or a base model 64GB M1 Ultra. I would venture very few will need the 128GB M1 Ultra option, but if you do, you probably already know it.
An important point about having a minimum of 64GB of unified memory in the M1 Ultra – this is what enables the 800GB/sec memory bandwidth. For instance, you may never use more than 32GB, but having 4 banks of 16GB (or 32GB) each at 200GB/sec means the M1 Ultra is moving memory at twice the rate of M1 Max, 4 times the rate of M1 Pro, 8 times the rate of M2, and nearly 12 times the rate of M1.
Desktop vs. Laptop
My bias or transparent needs: Prior to using a Mac Studio, I had been computing with laptops only (except servers) for over a decade, but at this point in my retired life, I have very little need for major horsepower portability. For me a powerful desktop is more useful than a laptop. My recording studio doesn’t move and I don’t gig either. The Mac Studio makes much more sense for me than a MacBook Pro as a primary computing device. Less than 10% of the time when I do need portable computing, I don’t need the super big performance horses, or the weight/bulk of lugging around a 16″ laptop. A 13″ MacBook Air or 14″ MacBook Pro suits my backpack and travel needs better. I could easily live with nothing but a 14″ MacBook Pro M1 Pro and a 27″ external monitor if I needed to though.
My needs or any opinionated influencer’s needs are meaningless for you though. Pick what you need. If you need or prefer a laptop, then that is the best choice. If you need or prefer a desktop, then that is the best choice. There is no such thing as one all around best computer.
Personal impressions of the Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra
Using the Mac Studio is dreamy to be perfectly clear. I’m totally satisfied with this machine. For my needs, I never run out of memory, CPU or GPU power. 64GB of memory is an incredible experience. 20 CPU cores and 48 GPU cores more than satisfy. More memory or CPU/GPU cores would be wasted on me. 1TB SSD is enough for me. I can’t deny more internal storage would be better, but it really isn’t necessary with cloud/external options.
I never hear the fans, the Mac Studio itself is even cool to the touch. The Mac Studio never seems like it is working hard. It just effortlessly does what it needs to do. In my opinion this is how computing should be.
I would generally advise to not get too tied up in the minutiae of benchmarks, but they are useful for relative comparisons of processors. It is worth noting that no M Series processors are slouches. Some more than others, but all of them are a noticeable improvement over the Intel processors in previous generation Macs.
CPU single-core performance of the M1 Max and M1 Ultra processors in the Mac Studio are very similar to all other M1 Series processors, because of course they all share the same CPU single-core.
CPU and GPU multi-core performance is where the differences become more apparent because of the different number of cores.
I purchased a Mac Studio M1 Ultra, with 20 core CPU, 48 core GPU, 64GB of memory and 1TB storage as I mentioned earlier. I can’t speak to all capacities, but the 1TB SSD is a blazing fast SSD as benchmarked by the Black Magic Disk Speed Test. WRITE and READ results are consistently over 5000 MB/s, often significantly so.
YouTube Creators often misunderstand technology
Increasing computing resources rarely equals the same increase in performance.
This has been the case since the dawn of information technology. There are many people online that appear to have fundamental misunderstandings of computing technology. Good tech advice prepares people for reality. Reality is you can believe that Apple has done something very special with the entire M1 Series.
Most people understand that since the all M1 Series processors share components, that some things, like single core performance, are going to be the same for the M1 Max and the M1 Ultra. Beyond that it can get very complex, depending how well software takes advantage of multiple CPU cores, multiple GPU cores, neural engines, video encode/decode engines, etc.
No benchmark or application is going to be built to optimize for one specific system configuration. There are always going to be generalizations in the software, system overheads, and/or other limiting factors elsewhere in the processing chain.
Believing that increasing one resource should always equally increase system performance makes for great click bait and video drama
However it’s naive and technically inaccurate. It’s wonderful when it does scale perfectly, but there are often diminishing returns as you get more advanced in technology and no reviewer can really say whether it is not worth it or not. Only the end user knows the context and value of what is being done to decide what is worth what.
Still on an average day, software that takes advantage of increased resources is going to see measurable performance gains. Sometimes equal to the resource increase, and sometimes not. M1 Max is the all around value sweet spot, M1 Ultra is the all around performance peak, period. Both the M1 Max and the M1 Ultra may be more than average users think they need, at least today. Keep in mind though, when making technology decisions, it’s an extremely rare user that some years down the road says they have too much computing power no matter how much they overbought.
DAW Performance Benchmarks
This next set of benchmarks will give you a rough idea of DAW performance. Note: DAW performance is impacted by CPU cores and memory. An over-abundance of GPU cores will not help DAW performance. GPU cores will help video, photo and other graphic applications.
These Logic Pro benchmarks come from the ‘Mac Studio Ultimate Comparison – Is M1 Ultra Worth it?!‘ video located in the YouTube section farther down this page. The M1 Max 32GB is a 10 CPU cores, 24 GPU cores model, the M1 Ultra 64GB is a 20 CPU cores, 48 GPU cores model, and the M1 Ultra 128GB is a 20 CPU cores, 64 GPU cores model.
Note the tracks in this benchmark are not necessarily real world loaded but I think you can see all of these systems go way beyond Intel DAW performance. Real world loaded I would feel very comfortable throwing 115 tracks at the Mac Studio M1 Max base model or 210 tracks at the M1 Ultra models. No need to completely dog out the CPU, ha! The numbers would be comparable for Ableton Live and other DAWs as well.
Keep in mind, the more non-M Series optimized plugins, apps, drivers or background processes you have running on Rosetta, the less tracks you will be able to run. The processing power is so sufficient, most will not notice the difference. I would still heavily recommend updating your plugins, apps, drivers or background processes to M Series compliant as soon as possible.
Again, for DAW performance I still think the Mac Studio M1 Max 32GB with 10 CPU cores, 24 GPU cores and 1TB SSD is the value sweet spot and will more than satisfy the average musician for years to come. Still we are talking about technology which everyone knows demands more later, so more is better if you can squeeze it.
There are of course some musicians or studios that need more right at the gate, and you likely know who you are. I don’t really need more than the M1 Max but I wanted it and I chose to err on the side of future-proofing with the M1 Ultra.
Check software compatibilities
It should go without saying, but I’m gonna say it anyway. M Series has been out since November 2020. macOS Monterey has been out since October 2021. I think it’s crazy that any DAW or plugin should have issues or still require Rosetta emulation, but not everyone listens to me. Do your homework!
Furthermore, in my opinion any major software company that markets to Apple users and hasn’t updated their software to include Apple silicon compatibility deserves to lose your business. It’s been a year and a half, and at this point it’s a real screw you. They obviously don’t care about their customers and should be replaced by a company that cares more about their customers.
All that said, my personal experience with macOS for Apple silicon has been very good. Everything I use runs natively on M Series and is compatible. But don’t listen to me, do your homework!
Ports are important for musicians & content creators
You will appreciate the additional ports the Mac Studio offers over a laptop. I appreciate the greater quantity of Thunderbolt/USB-C ports on the Mac Studio, and I totally feel any desktop should have an Ethernet port, and USB-A port(s) which the Mac Studio does have. WiFi is not always an optimum situation and I am certain everyone will have legacy USB for some time to come.
Yeah I know you can get adapters, but the expense and hassle for non-optional connectivity is uncalled for. It makes me very happy to just plug right into my building’s Ethernet network, and I have my Focusrite 18i20 2nd Gen interface that I would highly prefer to permanently occupy a port without an adapter as well as a number of USB hard drives, flash drives, cables to synths, cable to printer etc. that don’t need a continuous port.
Obviously my future purchases will be solidly Thunderbolt or USB-C. The HDMI will be very useful for TV, and occasionally I do like to plug headphones directly into the system, though most of the time it’s either through my interface or Bluetooth. I did buy the Apple USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter for an older existing monitor. This adapter also has a USB-C and a USB-A.
Mac Studio hardware upgrades
Interestingly, in the Mac Studio Full Teardown video it was discovered that there were two SSD slots inside. However, in the What happens if you try to UPGRADE a $5,000 Mac Studio? and Here’s why Apple won’t let YOU upgrade a Mac Studio [Part 2] videos, Luke Miani was unable to upgrade the (Apple proprietary) SSD which is not exactly an SSD, but turns out to be a storage module(s) with the drive controllers on the main logic board. My guess is there is probably a secret command/code that only Apple can reset the ‘SSD’ configuration with, so maybe it is possible for Apple to upgrade it, but at this point in time, don’t get your screwdriver out yet, no one has succeeded in a user upgrade and Apple is not offering upgrades yet either.
Assume no hardware upgrades can be performed. This is especially true with Apple silicon. SoC or System on Chip as you probably already know, cannot be upgraded. The advantages are more than worth it, but push yourself to adequately configure memory and storage for the future. If you can afford 2TB or more of Apple SSD storage, by all means do it. If it pushes your budget, consider the following section.
External storage alternatives
I recommend backing up all data to the cloud, and supplementing the internal Apple SSD with an external USB-C or Thunderbolt SSD/HD.
SSD speed needs for music production are similar to photography and video. This video will help you understand your actual needs and choose external SSD solutions (also in YouTube playlist below).
See Apple M Series External USB-C SSD Options for a more extensive discussion and specific product recommendations.
At the moment, I have a USB-A to SATA adapter with a 250GB SATA SSD that I keep my MP3, FLAC, and video collection on. I also have an old 500GB SATA HD that I can swap in for occasional data backups. This works just fine, the performance of the Mac Studio’s internal SSD is not needed for music/video playback and archival purposes. My important files are backed up to the cloud as well. I do look forward to getting a larger Thunderbolt SSD someday though I really don’t need it.
The Mac Studio has what it takes to get through the next 5+ years of your music & video productions
This is why you buy Apple. Realistically with the cost of computers these days, a 1-3 year refresh cycle is not practical for most people. Unlike the majority if not all PC systems, Apple computers are built to last and Apple silicon is state of the art enough to start you at the head of the pack.
Note: I do not always agree with or endorse many of the opinions in these videos, but include them for their perspectives. I believe many video producers push value to the detriment of future proofing too much and are far too presumptive as to what your needs and preferences may actually be. It is good to listen to diverse opinions but you are the best judge for you. For instance, I’m going to grant that you know whether a desktop or laptop is best for you, instead of others personal preference.
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Mac Studio M1 Max
Operating System: macOS
CPU: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine
Mar 9, 2022: Ordered Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra. Delivery changed a few times, last estimate June 29. Apr 19, 2022: Ordered Apple Studio Display that should deliver by June 3. Jun 3, 2022: Studio Display did arrive on time. Still, I couldn’t use it since the Mac Studio had not <sigh>. Jun 24, 2022: Mac Studio M1 Ultra shipped and could be here tomorrow which will be the 109th day. Jun 25, 2022: Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra: Delivered!
Holy Shmoly, the Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra backorder waiting time was super brutal, especially considering the time I spent waiting for a MacBook Pro M1 Max before I changed the order to this Mac Studio M1 Ultra the day after it was announced. Oh well, the best is worth waiting for, it’s over now!
I will say one thing after using the Mac Studio for the better part of 2 days, it’s a dream to use.
Buying severely constrained Apple products
Supply chain/Covid related product delivery delays have really been a problem with Apple. At this point I think it looks like my experience of 109 days from order placement to delivery for the Mac Studio M1 Ultra is among the worst. Currently Apple is estimating up to 67 days.
The Studio Display took a more palatable 47 days. A MacBook Pro M1 Pro recently ordered is scheduled to take up to 51 days.
Though still bad, product delivery delays appear to be shrinking. Be prepared to have a lot of patience. As a general rule, the more advanced the processor and custom the build, the longer the wait.
