Apple MacBook Pro M2 Pro & M2 Max

Last modified on October 30th, 2022 at 9:03 am

Under Construction

Best guesses at this point say the Macbook M2 Pro & M2 Max will be released in Q1 of 2023. Best known and most accurate leaker, Mark Gurman says to expect them 1st half of March:

I’m told that Apple is aiming to introduce the upgraded models—including M2-based versions of the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros—in the first quarter of calendar 2023 and has tied the launches to the upcoming macOS Ventura 13.3 and iOS 16.3. Those software updates are expected to debut between early February and the beginning of March. 

Apple has rarely launched new products in January or February during recent years, so I’d expect the new Macs to be announced by the first half of March. That aligns with the planned ship dates for the corresponding software, but also makes sense in light of Apple’s recent history of launching new Macs during that month, including the Mac Studio this year.


Details of this post are subject to change upon release of official information. This release is expected to be processor upgrades with no other changes except price. Of course, only time will tell for sure.

The Apple MacBook Pro M2 Pro/Max is Apple’s most powerful laptop to date and the ultimate laptop for musicians/creators

Apple 16″ MacBook Pro M2 Pro $2499.00 – M2 Max $3099.00 minimum per processor type
Apple 14″ MacBook Pro M2 Pro $1999.00 – M2 Max $2899.00 minimum per processor type

If you’re a serious independent pro or amateur musician, you really want the Apple Mac Studio M1 Max/Ultra or the Apple MacBook Pro M2 Pro/Max if you need portability.

If you absolutely must spend less than $1999.00, get an M1 or M2 Apple, such as the Mac mini M1, Mac mini M2 & M2 Pro, 24″ iMac M1, MacBook Air M1 or MacBook Air M2. To suggest buying less than these systems is bad advice. Also see notes below in the Unified Memory section.
See: Apple M1 is the new DAW performance minimum.

The MacBook Pro M2 Pro & M2 Max are the most powerful Apple laptops made to date and perfectly suited for creatives

If you want a laptop for creative pursuits, the MacBook M2 Pro/Max is the best money can buy. Compared to the M1* Series, these machines are just a spec bump. The MacBook M2 Pro/Max is exactly the same as the MacBook M1 Pro/Max, except for the processors. The M2 Pro/Max is better in all ways over its equivalent M1 Pro/Max counterpart, but maybe not so much that it would be worth upgrading from the exact same M1 Pro/Max version. There is roughly a 15% improvement in performance.

The design and performance of these machines remains exquisite, however. There are many ways to configure these laptops and everyone’s needs are different. In my opinion the 14″ is best configured as a M2 Pro system, and the 16″ is best configured as a M2 Max system.

Models have 8-10 CPU cores, 14-32 GPU cores, 16 Neural Engine cores, 16GB-64GB RAM, media engine enhancements, memory bandwidth of 200GB/sec to 400GB/sec, 3 Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports, HDMI, internal display 3024×1964/3456×2234, external display to 6k. The MacBook Pro M2 Pro & M2 Max are by far the best designed laptops Apple has produced to date.

For an easy to view chart of processor differences, see: Apple M2 Processor Series.

The 14″ M2 Pro fits my portability needs

The M2 Pro 16GB with 10 CPU cores, 16 GPU cores and 1TB SSD is the value configuration sweet spot for the 14″ estimated to be $2499.00. This is a very high powered system and my preference for a balance of performance and portability. I bought this exact 14″ MacBook Pro M1 Pro configuration for my daughter, and may order an M2 Pro version in 2023 to supplement my Mac Studio M1 Ultra.

The M2 Max 32GB with 10 CPU cores, 24 GPU cores and 1TB SSD is the value configuration sweet spot for the 16″ estimated to be $3299.00. This is the same value configuration sweet spot I recommend for the Mac Studio. The 16″ is large from a portability perspective, but if you’re going to do high power computing, you really need the bigger battery and better thermals of the 16″ form factor. To keep things in perspective, a 16″ MacBook Pro is large and 4.7 pounds, but this is nothing next to hauling around guitars, full-sized keyboards, drums, amps, PA systems, etc. If you need the greatest performance and/or largest screen size in a portable package, the 16″ MacBook Pro M2 Max is for you.

Aside from portability and power, there is another undeniably strong point for the M2 Series MacBook Pro 14″ and 16″ models: the display. You can’t buy a display as good as the M1/M2 Pro/Max MacBook Pros have currently, it is that good. When an equal display (larger at 27″) does become available, it will cost as much as a whole MacBook Pro. That said, the Apple Studio Display makes a nice compliment available now at a more reasonable cost though still premium. Or wait and save your pennies for the Apple Studio Pro Display.

Unified Memory

One of the beautiful things about M series processors is the memory in the processor chip. The performance and efficiency results of this design are significant and unmistakable. Because of this design, you cannot upgrade the memory later. It is important to get a sufficient amount of memory.

Going backwards for a second, I think getting an M1/M2 with 8GB memory is a mistake for DAW users. People with simple needs do it, but they are not maximizing their performance potential. An M1/M2 or M1/M2 Pro with 16GB memory is the minimum to me. For many DAW users 16GB is too low as well. An M1/M2 Pro with 16GB-32GB or M1/M2 Max with 32GB will prove quite sufficient for most electronic or rock musicians.

However, if your projects include a lot of sampled instruments, orchestral arrangements or soundtrack work, you really should consider the 64GB M2 Max. I would venture very few will need more than 64GB, but if you do, you need a desktop Mac Studio M1 Ultra to go to 128GB. If you need that much memory, you probably already know it.

Desktop vs. Laptop

My bias or transparent needs: Prior to using a Mac Studio, I had been computing with laptops only (except servers) for over a decade, but at this point in my retired life, I have very little need for major horsepower portability. For me a powerful desktop is more useful than a laptop. My recording studio doesn’t move and I don’t gig either. The Mac Studio makes much more sense for me than a MacBook Pro as a primary computing device. 5% of the time when I do need portable computing, I don’t need the super performance horses, or the weight/bulk of lugging around a 16″ laptop. A 13″ MacBook Air M1/M2 or 14″ MacBook Pro M1/M2 Pro suits my backpack and travel needs better. I could easily live with nothing but a 14″ MacBook Pro M1/M2 Pro and a 27″ external monitor if I needed to though.

My needs or any opinionated influencer’s needs are meaningless for you though. Pick what you need. If you need or prefer a laptop, then that is the best choice. If you need or prefer a desktop, then that is the best choice. There is no such thing as one all around best computer.

Information you need to properly digest web sites & especially YouTube.
Updated frequently – Apple Technology YouTube Critique

CPU Performance Benchmarks

CPU single-core performance of the 14″/16″ MacBook Pro M2 Pro/Max is very similar to all other M2 Series processors, because of course they all share the same core.

CPU multi-core performance varies due to the number of cores. The MacBook Pro M2 Pro/Maxs as of their release date are in many measurements the fastest Apple laptop computers ever made.

GPU Performance Benchmarks

On benchmarks or applications that use the GPU cores, the M2 Max will see a 25%-100% performance improvement over the M2 Pro depending on the how optimized the benchmark or application is, and whether each processor you are comparing has 14, 16, 24 or 32 GPU cores.

YouTube Creators often misunderstand technology

Increasing computing resources rarely equals the same increase in performance.

This has been the case since the dawn of information technology. There are many people online that appear to have fundamental misunderstandings of computing technology. Good tech advice prepares people for reality. Reality is you can believe that Apple has done something very special with the entire M* Series.

Most people understand that since the all M2 Series processors share components, that some things, like single core performance, are going to be the same for the M2 Pro and the M2 Max. Beyond that it can get very complex, depending how well software takes advantage of multiple CPU cores, multiple GPU cores, neural engines, video encode/decode engines, etc.

No benchmark or application is going to be built to optimize for one specific system configuration. There are always going to be generalizations in the software, system overheads, and/or other limiting factors elsewhere in the processing chain.

Believing that increasing one resource should always equally increase system performance makes for great click bait and video drama

However it’s naive and technically inaccurate. It’s wonderful when it does scale perfectly, but there are often diminishing returns as you get more advanced in technology and no reviewer can really say whether it is not worth it or not. Only the end user knows the context and value of what is being done to decide what is worth what.

Still on an average day, software that takes advantage of increased resources is going to see measurable performance gains. Sometimes equal to the resource increase, and sometimes not. M2 Pro is the all around value sweet spot, M2 Max is the all around performance peak for laptops, period. Both the M2 Pro and the M2 Max may be more than average users think they need, at least today. Keep in mind though, when making technology decisions, it’s an extremely rare user that some years down the road says they have too much computing power no matter how much they overbought.

DAW Performance Benchmarks

This next pair of benchmarks will give you a rough idea of DAW performance. Note: DAW performance is impacted by CPU cores and memory. An over-abundance of GPU cores will not help DAW performance. GPU cores will help video, photo and other graphic applications.

Keep in mind, the more non-M Series optimized plugins, apps, drivers or background processes you have running on Rosetta, the less tracks you will be able to run. The processing power is so sufficient, most will not notice the difference. I would still heavily recommend updating your plugins, apps, drivers or background processes to M* compliant as soon as possible.

Again, for DAW performance any of these configurations will more than satisfy for years to come for the average musician. Still we are talking about technology which everyone knows demands more later, so more is better if you can squeeze it. There are of course some users that need more, and you likely know who you are.

Check software compatibilities

It should go without saying, but I’m gonna say it anyway. M Series has been out since November 2020 and macOS Monterey since October 2021. I think it’s crazy that any DAW or plugin should have issues or still be running on Rosetta emulation, but not everyone listens to me. Do your homework!

Furthermore, in my opinion any major software company that markets to Apple users and hasn’t updated their software to include Apple silicon compatibility deserves to lose your business. It’s been a year and a half, and at this point it’s a real screw you. They obviously don’t care about their customers and should be replaced by a company that cares more about their customers.

macOS 13 Ventura was released on October 24, 2022

macOS 13 Ventura: Compatibility Guide

The MacBook M2 Pro and M2 Max will likely come with macOS 13 Ventura installed. You cannot downgrade to macOS 12 Monterey or earlier OS versions. However, by the time these laptops are delivered to customers, many DAWs, plugins, etc. will be compatible. If your music production needs can’t wait, consider sourcing a MacBook M1 Pro/M1 Max with macOS 12 Monterey. More than likely, if your music software is already compatible with Apple Silicon and macOS 12 Monterey, it probably will be updated to macOS 13 Ventura compatibility in a reasonably quick time frame. If it isn’t, you’d be smart to be extra cautious or seek alternate software.

Ports are important for musicians & content creators

I do wish these MacBook Pros had an Ethernet RJ-45 and a legacy USB-A port, but that will be probably never. The 3 Thunderbolt/USB-C ports on the MacBook Pro are likely adequate for most, and can also be easily expanded with a hub if you need more. Also an external monitor like the Apple Studio Display has 3 more USB-C ports in addition to the Thunderbolt 3 connection port. I would theorize that in portable mode you will not need more ports than are built in the MacBook, but in the studio you may.

You may want a USB-C to Ethernet RJ-45 adapter. You will want to plug your interface directly into USB-C or if you can’t do that, get a hub or adapter also for legacy USB-A hard drives, flash drives, cables to synths, cable to printer etc.

Obviously wise future purchases will be solidly Thunderbolt or USB-C. The HDMI will be very useful for TV, and occasionally most musicians like to plug headphones directly into the system, though most of the time it’s either through an interface or Bluetooth. You can also buy the Apple USB-C VGA Multiport Adapter for an older existing monitor if you need it. This adapter also has a USB-C and a USB-A.

MacBook hardware upgrades

Remember no internal hardware upgrades can be performed. This is especially true with Apple silicon. SoC or System on Chip as you probably already know, cannot be upgraded. The advantages are more than worth it, but push yourself to adequately configure memory and storage for the future.

External storage alternatives

I recommend backing up all data to the cloud, and supplementing the internal Apple SSD with an external USB-C or Thunderbolt SSD/HD.

SSD speed needs for music production are similar to photography and video. This video will help you choose external SSD solutions (also in YouTube playlist below).

See Apple M Series External USB-C SSD Options for a more extensive discussion and specific product recommendations.

The MacBook Pro M2 Pro & M2 Max have what it takes to get through the next 5+ years of your music & video productions

This is why you buy Apple. Realistically with the cost of computers these days, a 1-3 year refresh cycle is not practical for most people. Unlike the majority if not all PC systems, Apple computers are built to last and Apple silicon is state of the art enough to start you at the head of the pack.

Keep coming back

What will be different about this site compared to many Apple sites is over time we will be sharing configuration and electronic music/video recording pertinent information. More soon.

Thanks!
–Yehuda

Manufacturer’s website
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Product support, downloads
https://support.apple.com/

Videos

Yehuda Rothschild Apple MacBook Pro M1 Series YouTube Playlist
Yehuda Rothschild Apple Mac M Series Music Production YouTube Playlist

Apple related posts
June 26, 2022 – Apple Mac Studio M1 Ultra: Delivered!
March 22, 2022 – Apple M1 is the new DAW performance minimum
March 9, 2022 – Changed MacBook order to Mac Studio M1 Ultra
February 20, 2022 – Finally a MacBook Pro M1 with all the wanted features

Apple related pages
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Updated periodically – Apple MacBook Air M1
Updated periodically – Apple MacBook Air M2
Updated periodically – Apple 24″ iMac M1
Updated periodically – Apple Mac Pro M2 Series
Updated periodically – Apple M1 Processor Series
Updated periodically – Apple M2 Processor Series
Updated periodically – Apple M3 Processor Series
Updated periodically – Apple Mac Miscellaneous
Updated periodically – Apple Technology YouTube Critique
Updated periodically – Apple Studio Display
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MacBook Pro 14″

  • Operating System: macOS
  • CPU: Apple M1 Pro chip with 8-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Pro chip with 10-core CPU, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Pro chip with 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 24-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • Display: 14.2″ Liquid Retina XDR
  • Maximum Resolution: 3024 x 1964 native resolution
  • Graphics/Video: 1080p FaceTime HD camera
  • Memory – Included: M1 Pro 16GB or 32GB, M1 Max 32GB or 64GB
  • Storage – Included: 512GB SSD or 1TB SSD
  • Storage – Expanded: Up to 8TB
  • Thunderbolt Ports: 3 x USB-C (Thunderbolt 4, charging, DisplayPort, USB 4)
  • Bluetooth: v5.0
  • WiFi: 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 wireless networking; IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac compatible
  • Card Slots: 1 x SDXC card slot
  • Video Ports: 1 x HDMI
  • Audio Inputs: 3-mic array
  • Audio Outputs: 1 x 1/8″ (headphones), built-in stereo speakers
  • Touch Features: Touch ID, Force Touch trackpad
  • Battery Life: 70Whr Lithium-polymer battery (up to 11 hours wireless web, up to 17 hours movie playback)
  • Height: 0.61″
  • Width: 12.31″
  • Depth: 8.71″
  • Weight: 3.5 lbs.

MacBook Pro 16″

  • Operating System: macOS
  • CPU: Apple M1 Pro chip with 10-core CPU, 16-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 24-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
    CPU: Apple M1 Max chip with 10-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • Display: 16.2″ Liquid Retina XDR
  • Maximum Resolution: 3456 x 2234 native resolution
  • Graphics/Video: 1080p FaceTime HD camera
  • Memory – Included: M1 Pro 16GB or 32GB, M1 Max 32GB or 64GB
  • Storage – Included: 512GB SSD or 1TB SSD
  • Storage – Expanded: Up to 8TB
  • Thunderbolt Ports: 3 x USB-C (Thunderbolt 4, charging, DisplayPort, USB 4)
  • Bluetooth: v5.0
  • WiFi: 802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 wireless networking; IEEE 802.11a/b/g/n/ac compatible
  • Card Slots: 1 x SDXC card slot
  • Video Ports: 1 x HDMI
  • Audio Inputs: 3-mic array
  • Audio Outputs: 1 x 1/8″ (headphones), built-in stereo speakers
  • Touch Features: Touch ID, Ambient light sensor, Force Touch trackpad
  • Battery Life: 100Whr Lithium-polymer battery (up to 14 hours wireless web, up to 21 hours movie playback)
  • Height: 0.66″
  • Width: 14.01″
  • Depth: 9.77″
  • Weight: 4.8 lbs.